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Pledge “policeguns”

"I will write to my MP about the police shooting in London, and ask that only specially trained, uniformed, officers be allowed to use firearms but only if 15 other people will do the same."

— Jon

Deadline to sign up by: 19th August 2005
16 people signed up (1 over target)

Country: United Kingdom

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  • I've actually decided already to contact my MP, via I hope by creating this pledge encourage more people to get in touch with their MP about this and other matters.
    I will post what my MP replies (Alan Simpson), and will then reply to his letter.
    Jon, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • I recieved a letter from Alan Simpson, my MP, today and it said "I am no happier about the shoot-to-kill policy than you are". He agreed with my letter and forwarded me an article he has written for the July 28th Morning Star (
    Jon, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • I have emailed my local MP about this and asking for what reasons he supports ID cards and the national register. He's a TB loyalist, so lets see what he thinks (if he does that himself).
    Brian, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • The morning star wants me to subscribe to get access to articles. Care to summarise what he says?
    Barbara, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • It is quite a long article (3 pages). It starts by lamenting the death of Jean Charles de Menezes, as a result of the new "'shoot-to-kill' presumption". He asks why the media are so willing to accept this.
    He points out that in Iraq, where there was no al-Qaida activity before the war, US troops have adopted a similar "shoot-to-kill presumption" policy, which recently resulted in the shooting of the "police general in charge of Iraq's (sic) serious crime squad" - along with many other innocents. He says gains will only come through "policies of inclusion rather than assassinations". There is then a short discussion of US involvement in Afghanistan in the 70s and 80s, and Pakistan and its madrases. He then talks of the privatisation by US companies of Iraq’s assets, such that their government could not renationalise them - and how this is all encouraging insurgency. He also says that our Foreign Office is also "knee-deep" in this process. His closing paragraph: "The right to live in open, tolerant societies, free from fear or persecution, has to be fought for in the face of those who would divide and exploit us all. It is a struggle as much against those who would take innocent lives and prospects by economic means as against those who [do] so by suicide bombs. We cannot pretend that one is an outrage and the other not."
    Jon, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Thanks!
    Barbara, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • It seems that the police weren't exactly truthful. This poor man was executed by the stupidity of the the police. See
    (BBC). Lets hope the investigation isn't another Hutton whitewash.
    Steve Yan, 16 years ago. Abusive? Report it!

    No corporate state sponsored censorship!

    They had CCTV footage of all fake suicide bombers - you know that the Italian head of anti terrorists police said that the london bomber suspect was innocent and worked for the intelligence agencies of the UK?

    BBC news cut and edit their news before it is aired 3 hours in advance. I wacthed BBC news live on 7/7 all day and saw how it was gradually edited as the day progressed and even witnesses and surivors comments were all removed and cut, edited, etc.
  • I am guessing few of you have bothered to investigate the doctored CCTV stills ths UK Gov use to show fake suicide bombers.
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Jon, the Pledge Creator, joined by:

  • Frank O'Dwyer
  • Emma Leyland
  • Brian
  • Ian Bell
  • David Durant
  • Yan
  • Mat Sutcliffe
  • Barbara
  • Peter G
  • Jamie Hardy
  • bill
  • Jo Cook
  • Steve Yan
  • JJ
  • Juliana Kaizer Vizzotto
  • 1 person who did not want to give their name

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