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• Isn't everything made in China now? Could be a tough pledge to stick too, but I applaud the sentiment!
  Matt Davies, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• The person who said that human rights in China are important too, is absolutely right. Any government which violates human rights should be aware that people will protest.
  In making this pledge for animals I did not lose sight of this.
  daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I don't buy Chinese goods as a protest against their treatment of people. Most goods made in China involve forced labour at some point along the way. I can at least not be complicit in that.
  Barbara, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Tactfully put, Daisy. I think human rights and animal rights go together - it goes with a wider respect for other beings.
  Barbara, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hi Barbara
  
  Of course you are right abuse of animals is linked to abuse of people.
  
  NB I notice you haven't signed the pledge?
  daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hi again, Daisy.
  
  I don't like to sign up to things I'm already doing; too much like cheating. I'll tuck it in my e-mail sig., though, and see if there are any takers.
  
  Interesting article about the feasibility of boycotting China (as it were) in this month's /Ethical Consumer/. Not very - but it's still worth doing what one can, I think.
  Barbara, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hi Barbara
  
  
  Sorry about the delay in replying I've been away. I should not have assumed you would not be doing this already.
  
  thanks for your support
  
  Daisy
  Daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I have asked Pledgebank if we can extend this pledge, increasing the numbers required as I agree with the comment that more support is needed
  Daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• No prob, Daisy. Good luck with getting more support.
  Barbara, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hi Everyone
  
  Pledgebank suggest I should start another pledge and get all of you to sign it and get more support
  
  I have had suggestions, including asking for 100 in every country to sign.
  
  Have you any other suggestions to help get more support?
  
  thanks
  Daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Having just returned fron China, I think you have a lot to learn. It is a totally different country, it lives by different standards and ethics. Its people work long and hard to be successful in some of the most appalling conditions known. But they are winning, they will become the market leaders of the world with technology taken from europe, raw materials from Australia and a workforce of over 4 billion people to complete the task. Thay have, and want little, apart from the success of their country. Having a history that far exceeds our own they have little interest in the western world, and we, by our constant petty bickering and intrusion into other peoples business will never truly become the world leaders we consider we are.
  John Abbot, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Be careful about suggesting people have a lot to learn, John. Of course Chinese people work hard, but the point is that some do so under dangerous and environmentally disastrous conditions. Another point you appear to have missed is that this pledge is about HUMAN AND ANIMAL RIGHTS which have consequences you don't appear to have 'learned'.
  Daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Sorry, but your pledge quite clearly states its a protest against the cruel treatment of ANIMALS! Why do you think the Chinese are any worse than any other country? How about the countries that bleed their animals to death for food purposes, How about countries that consume animals that are considered 'sacred' by others. For every instance you may be able to refer to in your pledge, I can probably find dozens more in different countries, how about the veal crates in the UK, bullfighting in spain, hare coursing, bear baiting, fox hunting et al. Applying legislation in a country that understands it is relatively simple to do, however to to try to impose your will over a people that have no understanding nor want to have any is virtually impossible. Bit like invading Iraq or Viet Nam. I have first hand experience of so called animal rights protesters causing untold damage to people and property, not to mention the stress and discomfort to the animals they were supposed to be protecting. We recently had a visit from a family member, a long term vegetarian, who remarked how the fields that used to be full of cows and sheep are now lying fallow because of the lessening demand for meat, so does action ensure 'animal rights' or deny the animal the 'right to life' in the first instance. Do you not consider that certain breeds of animal will become extinct because there may become no more requirement to breed them? I have watched the PETA video on the Chinese Dog and Cat fur trade, and I suggest you go and visit your local abbatoir if you think we do things very differently, have you seen animals kept in trucks down wind of the stench of blood, a torture in itself, or the rats running from the bins of offal when the quicklime is added? or animals killed for specific religious requirements? I have absolutely no objection to you pledging anything you wish, however I really feel that you should look closer to home before going abroad. If you really want to make a difference join the RSPCA or become a vet, at least then you will be able to physically help rather than make a promise that will be forgotten. 21 people to support a cause in a country that doesnt give a damn what YOU thinkn is pointless, however, help the animals personally and you can support more than 21 a DAY
  John Abbot, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Well at least you had the grace to say Sorry, John
  
  I suggest you too at the website hrichina.org to continue your learning process.
  Daisy, 15 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hi! Everyone,
  I am a Chinese and I am going back to China for good next month. I am an animal lover and I have decided to boycot anything made in China in China. To support my action could you all help me by sending me beef produced in Australia, Ipods made in the US, PS3 produced in Japan, rice produced in Thailand, wines from France etc. Living off things produced abroad is going to be very tough but I'll persevere!
  May God be with me.
  Hua, 14 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• It's going to be tough not to buy something made in china these days
  ufc, 14 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Almost impossible, in fact; the best you can do within reason counts, though.
  
  It counts double to let politicians know that we (voters!) think it unacceptable to make concessions on human and animal rights, just because China's powerful.
  Barbara, 14 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• i will boycott chinese products ha ha just because they fall apart i will buy knives made in germany the finest i will buy products made in europe also i will buy computers made in japan or china because they all come from there now chinese people are cool like most people are. the problem is the people that are in charge,if the united states thought more like china we could have high speed trains and hydrogen cars for the money we have wasted in iraq?
  swede, 14 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I AGREE THERE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS, AS WELL AS THERE WORKERS IS SHOCKING, AND MATCHES THE POOR QUALITY AND SUB STANDARDS ON MOST OF THE GOODS THEY PRODUCE, THE WEST HAS BECOME THERE DUMPING GROUND FOR THERE SUB STANDARD PRODUCTS,I WILL NOT BE BUYING FROM CHINA AGAIN
  GLEN SYMES, 14 years ago. Abusive? Report it!

Current signatories (= they've done it)

Daisy, the Pledge Creator, joined by:

• Vix Lamble
• Paul Ewin
• Sophie Carter
• Eileen
• Alison
• Marguerite
• Joanna Firth
• Helen Robertson
• Christine Grenier
• Richard Grenier
• Annette Combs
• sharon hom
• PDM
• stephen hofman
• Thomas L. Vaultonburg
• mike
• Lisa Denning
• Katie
• stuart hall
• Audrey Hall
• mandy H

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