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Pledge “no2id”

"I will refuse to register for an ID card but only if 3,000,000 people will sign up."

— Stef (contact)

Deadline to sign up by: 1^st January 2007
662 people signed up, 2999338 more were needed

Comments on this pledge

• Yep, sign me up!
  Jon, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I hope that I would have the courage to refuse to sign up, even if I was the only remaining person in the whole country. Admittedly, it would be a lot easier if there were a few million of us.
  damien bove, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Once ID cards, and the Orwellian database behind them are introduced, there will be no going back.
  
  When our data has been fed in to the system,and we have been duly catalogued, the way we live our lives will change for ever.
  
  If we manage to stop the introduction of ID cards then we have won a battle.
  If we fail, then we have lost the war.
  Dan Mason, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I am not a number! I am a free man!
  Mike, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I exist by my right, not by their permission. It is none of their business who I am.
  
  But if I am doing nothing wrong, what do I have to hide? From someone I trust, nothing: from someone I do not trust, everything.
  Steve Sutton, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Hello all - I'm the director of mySociety , the group who are building PledgeBank. I just thought I'd mention to the sudden new influx of people that PledgeBank was designed not just for big campaigns like this, but mainly for little ones based on your street or your area. That's why we supply auto-generated flyers, and the chance for people to sign up for any pledge via SMS. So, if you want to hold a summer street party, organise a resident's association, or get sponsored on a run - set one up now!
  Tom Steinberg, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Excellent Idea
  Scott Walker, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• If you get to 3 million I'll join you
  Stuart Hamlin, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I find the notion of an impending police state both sinister, especially given the democratic deficit and lack of accountability inherent in our politcal system, and pointless, if ID cards are simply supposed to combat terrorism. I can't think of a single state now or in the past which boasts or has boasted the elimination of terrorism through ID cards.
  Rachel Laurence, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I'll refuse regardless of the numbers. 3 million does seem rather ambitious and unlikely to be reached, but here's hoping
  Tom Paternoster, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I will refuse to get one as well. In fact, I consider it a grave invasion of my civil liberties to be forced to have one and whether or not I trust the Government that brings it in, which is highly debatable, nobody can be sure there won't be developments down the years that suddenly bring something even more unsavoury into power. Then there's the thorny problem of function creep - the uses of ID cards will widen over the years, you can put money on it.
  Consider also the fact that no major govt IT project has ever come in on budget, on time and working properly.
  Finally, it starts from the presumption that everyone has to be watched in some way. I don't like the fact that it is so transparently a bad idea for all of these reasons and yet it still rolls on. I wonder what outputs the Government actually want from of all this.
  Ian Vince, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• The abuse of power and process in 21st century Britain is a disgrace to history and an appalling harbinger of the future.
  Whatever the Governmment may say is the purpose of ID cards, and however noble and benign their avowed motives, the truth will be darker than we can currently imagine. It's all about social control.
  Look at the way that the USA is abusing "reciprocal" extradition law [drafted for suspected terrorists] to attempt the extradition of UK businessmen on technical offences. Two examples are the ex-MD of Morgan Crucible on price-fixing charges and the 2 NatWest bankers who were peripherally caught up in the Enron débacle. Terrorism law is being used to try to get them sent over to the US. The US has even denounced the Morgan Crucible man to Interpol as a 'fugitive from justice', simply because he did not fly there voluntarily to submit himself to their partial and slapdash view of justice.
  I say "reciprocal" in inverted commas because - guess what - the USA still hasn't ratified the law, so the extradition trade is all one way. Now, bless my old boots, why am I not the least bit surprised?
  Look also at the recent threat by a senior police officer to arrest peaceful petrol-price protesters under terrorism legislation if they did not disperse immediately.
  It's social control. This illiberal and loathsome government - and the Conservative opposition which opposeth not - must must must be stopped. Each successive Home Secretary makes his predecessor seem like a flabby liberal in retrospect. David Blunkett made even Jack 'the Childcatcher' Straw look reasonable. Charles Clarke has, astoundingly, done the same for Blunkett. With every passing day, countries far, far away seem increasingly attractive as places to live with some semblance of residual confidence and dignity. Damn the whole priggish, grasping, self-righteous, self-indulgent, hypocritical bunch of the bloody, bloody rascals.
  E. Norfolk-Ingway, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Remember that Britain used to have ID Cards which were withdrawn because the police abused their powers. Why would it be any different now?
  Mark, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Feeling strongly enough to sign up here, you might also like to crank up the nuisance value by going to www.faxyourmp.com and sending your feelings direct to your elected rascal. "They do not like it up 'em, Captain Mainwaring."
  We might also try a bit of viral marketing by sending this excellent pledge URL to all on our email address lists. I am drafting a message with my own particular arguments against ID cards.
  B. R. Barnfield, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I'd always want to respect the laws of the state. But the more aware people seem to be about the implications of the proposed ID system the deeper their conviction that it is ill-conceived as presently outlined. I'm also dissatisfied - offended in fact - by the consultation process. Given that we dont at this stage know the precise final wording this pledge is "subject to contract". But the pledge is a good way to express the sense of dread that this proposal gives me, and solidarity with those who share this concern. I do want to explore better alternatives for identifying ourselves and availing ourselves of e-enabled public services.
  William Heath, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I will not be signing up for this identity card, and I will go to court if necessary.
  Jasmine Strong, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I plan to refuse to register with the database state, regardless of how many people sign this.
  Sean, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Oops, fucked up the addy in my name above, it should be www.liverpool-defy-id.org.uk
  Sean, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I will not sign up for an Identification Card even if there are only a few hundred of us. But if, by adding my name to this list I encourage others to do so, and encourage politicians to think again, then I am happy to sign.
  Andrew Bartlett, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I will not, can not and shall not take this card. If they criminalise me. So be it, an outlaw I shall be. If we have truth and morality on our side and the rights born into us by our forefathers no tyrants can disinvest us and say that we are their numbers to be registered and controlled. Our lives are our own, our liberty our own.
  Charles Hickie, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• An ID card will cost me a week's dole money, just for the privilege of having my human rights taken away!!
  Anton, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Make that two weeks' dole money!
  
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  Anton, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• No to ID cards. In fact, no to any form of identification at all! Burn the driving licences, passports and all other form of state intervention in the private matter of who I am!
  S Pam, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• It's none of the state's business what our private business is, and to intefere is a violation of our civil rights. There's also the small matter of 300 quid each.
  james newman, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Why make things easier for the government to dig up dirt on people who do not agree with them or follow their rules meekly and do not think that this information will not be available/accessable to those who will be happy to abuse the system for their own ends.
  David Giles, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Our current government are all about passing bills through the back door, smoke screening the real issues with lesser solutions to minor problems. They even use illegal means to push unpopular bills through parliament. Tony Blair is a proven liar and yet we still voted them back. The id card debate has gone on for years and I can't help but feel that our government are once again cashing in on current global fears, real or imagined, propagated in part by our own elected government. Do you remember the *how to survive a terrorist attack* booklet? It smacked of the survive nuclear blast infomercials etc of the 50's. ID cards are yet another nail in the coffin of personal freedoms and civil liberties. There are already government bodies collecting personal data on all of us. The data protection act is a mine-field and constantly changing, becoming more and more liberal and not in our best interests. How long will we allow this draining of our private lives go on?
  Mandy, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I pledge not to use the ID card
  Andy Cairns, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• One thing (out of many) that is particularly unnerving about the whole Orwellian nightmare that is the National ID Card/Population Register is the fact that one of the companies in the running for the contract, Atos Origin, are the same company that administer disability benefits in this country. Previously this particular division of Atos Origin was known as Schlumberger-Sema, a firm with a history of building population databases; it was they who operated a Hollerith punch-card system for the German government between 1933 and 1945.
  Tez Burke, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• How is this different from the www.pledgebank.com/refuse pledge? This one detracts from the more realistic and achievable target set there.
  
  I am totally against ID cards, but Stef, you have really just jumped on the bandwagon here without thinking about it. 3 million is a ludicrously high number.
  Anonymous, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• This very old pledge inspired the new id cards pledge. We've now updated PledgeBank so it says that this pledge is cancelled at the top of the page. There's a link to the new pledge there.
  Francis Irving (mySociety), 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• i love to register on id on the street
  nonso, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Is carbonated water better for you or is plain better....it's really up to you. Don't lose your vote!
  Mark Flett, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• I will refuse as well. The identity card is totalitarian and undemocratic and pointless other than to increase the Labour Party's control over our lives.
  ray shakespeare-smith, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Oppresive is final step back to a wilderness.
  hazel cameron, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Another clear example of how unconcerned a large part of the british public are towards ID cards.
  SAY NO to this invasion of privacy and civil liberties..
  dannyrampling, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• If this is allowed to happen, our country will be all but lost
  Dustin Anderson, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Identity cards, a rather useless, timewasting idea. What nonsense they claim that ID cards will reduce crime and eliminate terrorism.
  Shoz Rahman Publishing Ltd, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• Terrorism must be fought, it is true. But the 9/11 hijackers all had valid US paperwork. ID cards aren't going to solve the problem; the money can surely be better sent on security forces instead.
  Phil Crooks, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• ID cards are just another scam by the gvt. to understand and control the lives of the proletariat. it is important we stand up and say NO now.
  DAN DONOVAN, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• yep i'll sign
  claire syme, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
• i have seen what can happen if you DON`T SHOW your id card when asked to do so.. try www..prisonplanet,a student was shot with a stun-gun over and over again. i WILL not have one. why did we bother winning the war? even our freedom of speech has been taken away.and tony lives behind bars now.1984..here we come.
  ginger, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!