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I tend to agree with Ian Gregory here. (For clarification, I don't know him, but it is frustrating to see his consistently reasonable dialogue with Kiera met with responses that border on the abusive).

Supporting working class people who want cheap holidays whilst condemning the working class baggage handlers as "robbers" is inconsistent, and perhaps demonstrates that the trumpeted concern for the working class is not entirely genuine.

Also, Keira, your reverse class discrimination is nothing to be proud of - should you "despise" someone for being born on the right side of the tracks? No, of course not, for the main reason that people do not choose the circumstances in which they are born into. Calling this kind of sneering "class consciousness" is just disingenuous, and it is irrelevant to the main issue of climate change.

I think Ian rightly dropped out of the argument because his points were not being answered. To me, it sounds rather like you oppose Plane Stupid because you hate the class of people within it. I don't think that is very productive.

I have no idea whether they are all privileged types, but even if this is the case, should working class environmentalists not support decent attempts to slow climate change across class boundaries? That would be a much better situation than Tarquins, Arabellas and Tamsins not caring about the world, and jetting around in a plane every other week on their trust funds instead - or would you hate them for that as well?
Jon, 3 years ago.

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