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A follow up from Tim,
I think the right words to describe what Matt Wilkes's thesis is about is 'more confused than ill informed'. However,there are some good points, but writing such a contradictory dictate about one thing just makes the good points useless. The ID is bad news - we all agree on that. We pay for them, they are too invasive and unnecessary and they will not stop anything that Matt seems to think they will. Numerous people in Tony Bliar's own government have confirmed that.

Finally, whether Cherie is ugly or not is not an issue here. So why not stick to the principle of an honest and open debate over an issue that is serious like the ID cards.

florence durrant, 14 years ago.