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London Victim, these atrocities give weight to the "for" argument only if it can be explained *how* ID cards and government control of ID make a difference--and shown that that difference is worth it. They could easily be worse than useless, diverting government resources that could be used in counterterrorism intelligence into monitoring and policing the ID of 60 million law abiding people. There's no demonstrable trade-off between privacy and security.Guy Herbert, 13 years ago.