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Thanks Eleanor and well said Andrew. It doesn't seem that everyone agrees but hopefully some sensible debate can continue. At the moment it's descending into one extreme view shouting down another. To have a debate to try and change opinions you need to engage both sides, not dismiss one as evil/stupid/part of a conspiracy! It's not because I don't believe strongly, I just think that making the message effective is the key.Me, 14 years ago.