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Just to correct a point "Chuck Norris" made, stating that the Police DNA database only has Convicted Criminals on it.

First they added the Convicted Criminals.

Then they added the Charged (even if found innocent)
http://www.privacyinternational.org/arti...

Then they added the Arrested (even if not charged)
http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/p...

Then they added the Witnesses (even if not suspected of a crime)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4222... (Volunteers only and they promise to destroy the records afterwards - but they used to promise that for those found innocent!) I give it about 4 more major murder investigations before they start pushing to keep the witnesses dna.

It has been sugested that they should have the "Power to use fingerprints/DNA taken covertly for speculative searches to confirm or disprove a person’s involvement in an offence." http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/docs3/Polic...

They have also used the DNA of family members to find and later convict a person that was not on the system. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?i...

In case people are thinking that this is irrelevent to ID-cards, it is only a matter of time before they discover that DNA is a better biometric to use (as it does not change over time), and for hardware to become available to allow DNA reading in minutes. At which point the ID card system will likely start to change over, after all only the readers and some software will need changing, all the personnel, offices, communications systems etc will exist.

These changes in the DNA datebase is also an example of a variant of function creep once a system is in place.
Thurstan R. McDougle, 12 years ago.

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