http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald Comments on 'Stop using the Glasgow Heralds comments facilities until freedom of speech is returned and intend PICKET the Glasgow Herald if they do not allow free speech and reasonable comments. Say no to ministerial bullying. Democracy and freedom of speech is a human right.' en-gb team@pledgebank.com 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 2 hourly http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2987744 Well Done to the Glasgow Herald for the MASSIVE rise in print and on-line reader figures. Well done to Sam for stopping snp propaganda and lies and detailing with others juan kerr`s activities such as serious abusive postings and him being behind various sick and disgusting blogs. This pledge is nothing short of a vendetta by juan kerr and the juankerrwatch has just blown his free speech argument to bits, read the comments above and note the volume of deleted comments, seems kerr does not like free speech unless it`s to his views. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2866564 Conan, So are they down to a quarter? I assume the monthly figure is a weekly breakdown/comparison? If thats the case they are bombing rapidly. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2863864 The Stats for the Herald Key statistics: Last week Site Visits - 256,083 Page views - 1,026,770 Last month - October Site Visits - 1,022,888 Page views - 3,985,969 Rest your case Juan. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2856888 sorry last comment for Dave Allen (the comedian) http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2856885 Hen I think your post constitues "spray and pray" http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2856883 Blooming eck! 2000 posts! I mustnt have slept since to get that many in. Also the comments moderation went on before the glenrothes result, hence why I have not posted a psingle post. I am sure your stretching credibility by lying your bottom off. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2847212 Hen Broon# He will have to come of the list as it breaks the terms of the pledge, he is busy spewing rubbish on the Herald.lol. I do suspect a couple of the others on your pledge are posting in new names or as you say yourself "Fake" names, i will not name them YET. Juan Kerr you must show people with different views respect and stop saying people are Fake posters or this that and the next thing, just because you lose the debate does not mean you have to be abusive, i note you dealt badly with the Glenrothes majority for Labour and posted almost 2000 posts of abuse in other posters names, you failed, your angry is a worry perhaps a poor education or issues, please seek help and also please stop faking others especially when you post dogs abuse in other peoples names. I wish you luck with your pledge i think you will need it and more. P.S Are you sure you are giving yourself enough time Dec 2009?, better to make it Dec 2015.lol. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843576 Good evening, good people of Scotland and elsewhere. This is the PledgeBank moderator speaking. We believe strongly in free speech, as apparently do others in the comment thread above. However, we also recognise circular, fruitless, name-calling, covered-all-of-this-ground-before "discussion" when we see it too. We welcome positive contributions (including *constructive* criticism) from all. Please keep things civil, respectful and useful. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843490 Am2/scottish unionist - , you omit the active taunting from your own camp. such as "bravehearts" , "gnatZ," , "cybernats" etc which yourself use. So, you're being a bit free in ommiting your own contributions too. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843434 Juan: The habit of disturbingly many nationalist posters on the old Herald forum to refer to non-nationalists as “traitors”, “anti-Scottish”, “Scotland haters”, “scum”, “onanists”, “quislings”, “Anglos”, “enemies of Scotland”, “wannabe English”, “hypocrites”, “born liars”, “fascists”, “racist against Scots”, “creeps”, “leeches” (and plenty more besides) clearly wasn’t tongue-in-cheek. The Herald had no choice. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843420 Douglas Fraser - the very man who described bloggers and his commenters as "internet vermnin" "“The Herald has been forced to suspend reader comments on its political stories because of persistent and unacceptable levels of personal abuse posted by some contributors. The decision has been made pending a review of the way our stories are commented on.” " there is is tounge in cheek and there is hate. Posters arent daft as to which is which. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843411 Free speech is both a right and a responsibility. “The Herald has been forced to suspend reader comments on its political stories because of persistent and unacceptable levels of personal abuse posted by some contributors. The decision has been made pending a review of the way our stories are commented on.” http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.1971226.0.Comments_suspension.php Douglas Fraser: “These online discussion forums have taught me quite a bit - rarely about politics, but much more about the disturbing results you get from the interplay of anonymity, group psychology and bullying. This is not unique to The Herald's website, or to Scottish politics, but as the content and tone of this conversation represents a daily injection of poison into the well of Scottish public life, we are all worse off for it.” http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/politicalblogs/index.var.13223.0.0.php How anyone can criticise the Herald over this defeats me. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843381 Alec, Smendrick is quite a poor and quite racialy disgusting usage and stereo type of Jewish people. You should be quite ashamed. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843374 In addition the posters views of Asians and imigrants was terrible. How dare you slander a fair campaign, probably the same guy who ruined the herald no doubt. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2843361 Dave, "How do you know this "Sam" was a BNP member?," He posted vote BNP frequently "if i remember correctly at least two people said they had past your comments to the Police naming juan kerr as the faker" By Sam using his two pre proven (by other users) fake accounts. I have never said anything that would require a visit from the police. "The bottom line here is that juan kerr is gutted that the Herald is no longer an snp chatroom and place to spew snp propaganda" No, my view is that freedom of speech and toleration of banter has been killed.It os everyones recourse against politicians of all parties. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2842188 This herald boycott is childish at best, possibly illegal and without a doubt malice. Because someone was clever enough to find a way to get the Herald(and rightly so) to stop all threads looking like an snp chatroom which was full of comments sometimes hundreds from a handful of snp activists who also reported all non snp posters. How do you know this "Sam" was a BNP member?, also were you not named as a fake poster yourself, and if i remember correctly at least two people said they had past your comments to the Police naming juan kerr as the faker. The bottom line here is that juan kerr is gutted that the Herald is no longer an snp chatroom and place to spew snp propaganda. A large number of people are pleased with the new Herald comments system including myself. P.S Note the kerr person is calling someone who is of a different view a member of the Herald staff. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2841992 Good on yer Juan about time the Vichey were challenged we need to do it on every means available. Even poor Tibet has been flung to the wolves by their chief snot gobbler. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2841939 "That's not what you said. You said the forum was riddled with B.N.P. posters, then you said it had been successfully self-moderating, now you're back to saying it riddled with one (!) B.N.P. poster. Loonie! " A guy was faking others and the herald allowed it too continue, I reckon someone thought it amusing and to get hits up or something.He was pretty bottom barell even for my cut and thrust standards. Some pretty nasty stuff on ethnic issues. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2841375 >> I have not made this a party issue, Except when you accused The Herald of accommodating the British Nationalist *Party*, or being beholden to Westminster. Loonie alert! >> but you are. Maybe your time will be better spent reading Richmal Crompton than setting up vacuous petitions. >> Are you living in an alternate universe or have you actually been to the herald forum, I have, and it was a nasty place. >> or just assume AM2 is against it and following suit. >> Tell AM2 a thanks for sending folk from his blog I suppose this is less barking that having thought I am a Herald employee. Still wrong. I came of my own volition, and was troll-baiting long before I found his blog. >> to sign. I didn't sign you twit. >> AHHHHH, So Sam the BNP unionist was a figment of everyones imagination then...... That's not what you said. You said the forum was riddled with B.N.P. posters, then you said it had been successfully self-moderating, now you're back to saying it riddled with one (!) B.N.P. poster. Loonie! >> Please don't mock my spelling, it is SO hurtful! I may cry! Oh, I'm sorry. You're a schmendrik's schmendrik! This is Yiddish for someone who's socially well-adjusted and has a healthy relationship with his mother, and is incidentally quite lucky with the girls. http://www.pledgebank.com/bintheherald#comment_2841357 "The forum has always been self moderating for years Like those B.N.P. supporters you see under the bed? Loonie! " AHHHHH, So Sam the BNP unionist was a figment of everyones imagination then...... Are you living in an alternate universe or have you actually been to the herald forum, or just assume AM2 is against it and following suit. Sounds like the latter. Please don't mock my spelling, it is SO hurtful! I may cry!