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Pledge “againstjwdogma”

"I will give blood but only if 50 people of the world will do the same, as a joint solidarity against Jehovha's Witnesses' dogma."

— John Sargeant, resident of Midlands UK

Deadline to sign up by: 30th September 2007
78 people signed up (28 over target)

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I am a moderator on Richard.Dawkins (Homo economicus) and as a child studied with Jehovah's Witnesses.

Having received and given presents, this is the last such taboo for me to give and receive.

That children may die for their parents' interpretation of ancient text and modern understanding of an ancient belief is something to be challenged.

I hope enough people will join in this selfless civic action.

Thank you.

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  • I would love to sign up but I am not allowed to give blood. I am registered with the National Blood service, but then found out I am unable to donate. However, I decided to post a comment here in support of your cause. :o)
  • Thanks for the support. Please do tell people about the link to this pledge to gather support.

    Many thanks.
  • I like to donate blood when I can anyway. Only this time, I get to do it out of disrespect for idiotic traditions!

    Yay!
    Phil Clayburn, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • I also already give blood, and am delighted to be able to do so for another good and positive reason.
    Dave Davis, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • I give blood regularly, by the end of this year I will be up to 50 pints donated
    Ian Brooks, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • I cannot donate blood because the only organization that collects it is the American Red Cross. They conduct cruel experiments on animals that they have no right to do. These people are so insane or so perverted that they cannot be trusted. Jehovah's Witnesses are delusional, but at least they preach kindness and promote vegetarianism to some degree.
    Stanley Jones-Umberger, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Vegetarianism only as far as black pudding is concerned :)

    As to kindness, letting people die or be in pain because they believe god has said no to blood, and he must be obeyed even if we do not understand why.

    Also as a child my opportunities to socialise were diminished due to "bad associations spoil useful habits". Birthdays and Christmas were cancelled, but there were no other social events besides the 16 hours of indoctrinal meetings each week.

    While the motives of the grassroots may be kindness, the experience within is not always so.
  • It's typical for victims of oppression to become the oppressors as soon as the opportunity arises. Humans have the unique capacity to understand the consequences of their behavior and make cruelty-free choices. Did your last meal limit some living being's opportunity to socialise?
    Stanley Jones-Umberger, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • The JWs do not promote vegetarianism as part of the Christian doctrine. I came to the conclusion about vegetarianism as a humanist and reading Peter Singer (his Practical Ethics would not have been approved reading by the Society - or indeed philosophy generally).

    I do not think protesting the refusal of life saving medical treatment by parents, on children's behalf, for religious reasons is being oppressive.

    It is not their life to sacrifice. It is not a rational thing to do.
  • I agree with you, John. I think what you experienced was repressive. I also think that those that eat, wear, or experiment on animals are being repressive. It is not their life to sacrifice.
    Stanley Jones-Umberger, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Found here because, by chance I found homoeconomicus. I would love to aid your cause, but I'm haemophobic, and that doesn't really make it too easy.

    That said, I definitely agree with you, that raising children, teaching them things that are impossible to proove, as absolute truth, rather than how to think, is pretty terrible... and I hardly think Jehovah's witnesses or the only guilty. Just one of the worst...
    Joel Ison, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Debunking the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs:

    A) They are at your door to recruit you for enslavement to their watchtower corporation,they will say that "we are just here to share a message from the Bible" this is deception right off.


    B) The 'message' is their false Gospel that Jesus is ruling in heaven already since 1914.The problem with this is it's not just a cute fairy tale,Jesus warned of the false prophets who would claim "..look he is here in the wilderness,or see here he is at the temple"

    C) Their anti-blood transfusion ban has killed hundreds if not thousands

    D) once they recruit you they will "love bomb" you in cult fashion to also recruit your family & friends or cut them off. There are many more dangers,Jehovah's Witnesses got a bad rap for good and valid reasons.

    Who are Jehovah's Witnesses?

    No tolerance,the Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult because they try to cut you off from others who do not have the same beliefs, including family.
  • I can't give blood and you have my support.
    Sylvie Launay, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • SUMMARIES OF 600 JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES LAWSUITS & COURT CASES


    The following website summarizes over 315 U.S. court cases and lawsuits affecting children of Jehovah's Witness Parents, including 100+ cases where the JW Parents refused to consent to life-saving blood transfusions for their dying children:

    DIVORCE, BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS, AND OTHER LEGAL ISSUES AFFECTING CHILDREN OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

    http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com


    The following website summarizes over 285 lawsuits filed by Jehovah's Witnesses against their Employers, and/or incidents involving problem JW Employees:

    EMPLOYMENT ISSUES UNIQUE TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESS EMPLOYEES

    http://jwemployees.bravehost.com
    Jerry Jones, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • This is a disputed topic. I'm warning my fellow readers.
    John, 4 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Thanks for spreading the word!

    Giving blood to help others is something to the public good. A doctrine that states that blood transfusions are a sin needs to be challenged- that is what the Give Blood against Jehovah's Witnesses Dogma is all about.
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John Sargeant, the Pledge Creator, joined by:

  • Joe M.
  • Derek Walsh
  • Scully from JWD
  • Christian Johnson
  • Diane Bridges
  • Gayle McCurdy
  • Rachel Evans
  • Cass Berry
  • treesa sanders
  • Teresa Nichols
  • Eleanor Cramer
  • Owen Selly
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  • Eric Golding
  • jj fleming
  • Davina Taylor Pointing
  • Rebecca A.
  • Louise Hurteau
  • Benjamin Goodger
  • Dr Sami chidiac
  • Jock Scott
  • Justin S.
  • Chuck Bird
  • Kevin M Jones
  • Phil Clayburn
  • Montinee Khunvirojpanich
  • Andrew D. Parker
  • Daniel Phillips
  • Dave Davis
  • James Connelly
  • Emma Niklasson
  • Pam King
  • Jimmy Richards
  • Rachel Gatwood
  • kate
  • Ian Brooks
  • David Nielsen
  • Mellisa Lozinski
  • Pete Almond
  • Eric Pettersson
  • mike morgan
  • Clare Pearson
  • Hamza Sohail
  • Shane Dielschneider
  • David Gould
  • Angie Wilkes
  • Jon Wasey
  • Linda McArdle
  • Danger
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  • Philip Childs
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  • Eugene Sinkevici
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