http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID Comments on 'refuse to accept a national ID card' en-gb team@pledgebank.com hourly 2 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2987618 I don't care if I'm on the record for this because I understand. Yes if we lose it will bite me on the butt but it will give others time to hide. lol I have three choices. But only really two. Do nothing and pretend it not going to happen. Two, well... lol I'm not that dumb. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2980889 http://www.rcksinema.net http://www.rcksinema.net/search/label/.Erotik http://pc-oyuntr.blogspot.com/ http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2949016 I;m you big fun, do what ever you do. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2945125 thanks.... http://www.yarimce.net http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2944978 I'll keep that in mind and will make it a point to fill in the gaps when I have time. Lots of projects, and I have astronomer friends who I figured could help solve that problem as it arose. http://www.mirckeyfi.org http://www.sohbetkeyfi.org http://turkce-limewire-indir.blogspot.com http://www.takintidivx.net http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2674406 Peoople if you havent found these sites by now, here are the best ones www.prisonplanet.com www.infowars.com www.plisonplanet.tv www.letsroll911.org www.whatreallyhappened.com www.wearechange.org www.pnacitizen.org www.911proof.com as far as that id card they can kiss my AMERICAN ARSE i will not take it http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2614812 If anyone wants to try to stop the ID card in the first place, write to your MP! And please sign this pledge: http://www.pledgebank.com/libertynotterror Please sign the pledge and let our MPs know our dissatisfaction. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2455338 In the end if there is to be a fight we will need each other the common man and women to fight together. Check my pledge NoToTheAmeiro. Its a bought the next phase in this big plan it is the North American Union and it will help form Three powerful states the European union Asian pacific union and our north American union... http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2452825 The greatest threat to civil liberties since the last time they were abolished in the UK. Anyone reading this thread who hasn't researched this subject properly should do so NOW. If you've got 'nothing to fear', then you should have no problem getting educated. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2438925 http://freedomnetwork08.blogspot.com/ http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2422921 Ok I am totally against RFID chips backed by the Bilderberger Group. The Real Deal is us we have to help each other inform each other. Like those two guys on here arguing back in forth one thrashing the next because he may be misinformed well instead of bashing we could try enlightening those who don’t know. In the end if there is to be a fight we will need each other the common man and women to fight together. Check my pledge NoToTheAmeiro. Its a bought the next phase in this big plan it is the North American Union and it will help form Three powerful states the European union Asian pacific union and our north American union.They plan to take away most of our freedoms then using eugenics to exterminate most of the population I.E. China,Natzi's (population control)This union will also make our constitution noll in void.Feel free to contact me on This issue or If I can assist in anyway you plan on fighting back ovenhotstudios@yahoo.com http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2398434 I won't accept it even if I'm the only one. I'm quite serious. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2337489 My name is Paul David Beard, I am a prominent young businessman from south london. As well as a self confessed entrepreneur, I love life, my family and friends and doing what I can to better society. But if this insane legistlation requirement ever comes to pass I will publicy refuse to endorse to the point of indefinite imprisonment. This is not a future I have envisaged for Britain and its people, nor any other people of the world. We must oppose this dreadful depiction of our future now, that has been painted by central government and our central banking system. Feel free to contact me if you share any degree of my opinion. pdb@pixel-gear.com Paul. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2323088 She has testified on RFID technology before the Federal Trade Commission, state legislatures, the European Commission, and the Federal Reserve Bank, and she has given over a thousand television, radio and print interviews to news outlets all over the world. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2274016 I would'nt accept it, even if it was truly secure. So many hackers these days can find out lots of things. What if you lose the card? You lose everything. With that, you are more secure carrying a bunch of cards, it lowers the chances of them getting it. But one thing that would be cool is if certain things were put on a chip and embedded somewhere like on a forearm. I dont think this pledge will stop the goverment or anything, but then again, we might only see the beginning of things like this in years to come. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2211764 I won't accept it even if I'm the only one. I'm quite serious. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2182240 ...continued from above: "DHS has kicked the can down the road to the next administration, and conceivably the next two or three administrations," said Barry Steinhardt, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union. Already, 17 states have said they would either refuse to issue the new licenses or have asked Congress to repeal a 2005 law that required states to collect and store additional data on driver's license applicants, such as birth certificates, Social Security numbers and home addresses. Under Real ID, all new licenses would be machine-readable and contain personal information that could be scanned by governments and potentially by corporations. At a news conference yesterday, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the guidelines represent a balance between security and privacy in accordance with the Real ID Act. He warned that residents in states such as Georgia and Washington, which have refused to comply with the program, may be subject to additional security checks or prevented from boarding flights once the program begins this spring. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR2008011103410_pf.html http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2182237 ID Plan Is Broadly Criticized Bipartisan Objections Cite Security, Costs and Privacy By Dafna Linzer Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 12, 2008; A02 A new Bush administration plan to create national standards for driver's licenses drew heavy criticism yesterday from civil liberties groups, some Republican and Democratic lawmakers, governors, and the travel industry. The critics said the new licenses anticipated under the plan, which is aimed at screening out potential terrorists and uncovering illegal immigrants, could still be forged. They also complained that the program, known as Real ID, would be costly for states to implement, potentially restrict summer travel, and allow private companies access to the personal data of most U.S. citizens. But they also welcomed yesterday's official announcement that states have until May 2011 before they need to begin issuing licenses that meet the department's new guidelines, and until December 2014 to begin replacing current licenses. Drivers over the age of 50 will not have to obtain new licenses until the end of 2017. The deadline extensions give both Congress and future presidents time to reconsider what opponents have depicted as a national identification system that will infringe on privacy rights and leave room for large-scale identity theft. continues below... http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2151278 I don't want the Brits to have to endure a National ID either. I don't mind if you sign the pledge :) http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2138174 USA is a constitutional republic not democracy. We are not governed by the majority of the people but by the rule of law. The rule of law protects the minority and weak from the tyranny of the majority. We all have inalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. If the majority of the people want security and is willing to sacrifice liberty, the government still cannot infringe on the rights of the majority nor minority. Democracies are mob rule. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Freedom: Two very hungry wolves looking for dinner and finding a very well-informed and well-armed sheep. "Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference." - Ron Paul Take action everyday and every 11th. EMA: educate, motivate, activate. Many hands make light work. Consider joining forces with those who try to prevent history from repeating itself. Become a student of history. We know of no better way to predict the future than by the past. http://TruthAction.org