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Pledge “GrottoRdJunction”

"I will campaign to Surrey County Council to add a footpath and double yellow lines to the North side of Grotto Road, at the junction of Grotto Road and Thames Street but only if 50 other local people will sign this pledge in support of the improvement."

— Barbara, resident of Weybridge North

Deadline to sign up by: 11th July 2009
50 people signed up

Country: United Kingdom
Postcode area: KT13 (view map)

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Dangerous junction at the corner of Grotto Road & Thames Street

There is no pavement at the north side of Grotto Road at this junction which is regularly used by children walking to and from school, and visiting the corner shop.

Even with no parked cars, visibility is poor turning into the road from Thames Street, and pedestrians are regularly confronted with near misses there. It is only a matter of time before somebody is seriously injured or killed.

Parents of children at St Georges School seriously worsen the problem by parking all the way along the green at the corner of Grotto Road, right up to the junction, thereby making the road too narrow for traffic to navigate, let alone pedestrians.

At 8am, 12 midday, 3pm and 4pm the junction becomes impassable with tempers flaring on a daily basis.

The corner needs a complete footpath, double yellow lines all along the green and opposite the shop, and strict enforcement of same.

The local authority and St Georges School have been notified of this problem on many occasions, however the first day back to school after a break is always a particularly difficult time for local residents.

More details, a map and photos of the problem can be found at http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/47661

I will be submitting our petition to the Surrey CC Local Committee in advance of their meeting on July 27th (they need it two weeks in advance)

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  • The link is to a map of the area
  • The general inconsideration shown by the mothers drives me mad - for these times in the day the road is owned by them and their ridiculous 4x4's...can we have our street (and some manners) back please...
    Dave, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Thank you Barbara for organising this - it is a HUGE problem and I am always amazed that SCC allow it to continue. I have witnessed several near misses on that corner!
    Sharlene Fuller, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Here is the relevant part of The Highway Code:
    Waiting and parking (238-252)
    242
    You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.
    [Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103]
    243
    DO NOT stop or park
    • opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
    Barbara, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Pledge Update:

    I still haven’t managed to put leaflets about the pledge in everyone’s door – I had no idea how long this takes! I have new respect for our poor postman.

    I have been also collecting signatures on paper from people that I have bumped into on the street, so without doing any ‘active’ campaigning as at lunchtime on the 10th of June we have 35 signatures!

    Some people have expressed concern about how narrow the road would be with an additional footpath, and indeed widening the road will be complicated because there are services there such as a phone box, letter box and more importantly a Telecommunications service point, which apparently can not be easily moved.

    My suggestion was that the existing footpath be diverted around the corner BEHIND these services, and then the road could be widened a footpath width on that side of the road, compensating for the loss of width on the north side. What do people think about this solution?
    Barbara, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • Hello, and thank you for signing our successful pledge!

    I have sent the following question to Surrey County Council (SCC) for their meeting on the 27th of July, and I will be collecting signatures on paper throughout the summer in order to submit a paper petition to them at their September meeting.

    "Will Surrey County Council take action on urgently needed safety issues at the junction of Grotto Road and Thames Street?

    There is no pavement at the north side of Grotto Road at this junction which is regularly used by children walking to and from school at St James and St Georges and St Charles Borromeo primary schools, and visiting the corner shop. Even with no parked cars, visibility is poor turning into the road from Thames Street, and pedestrians are regularly confronted with near misses there. It is only a matter of time before somebody is seriously injured or killed.

    Parents at school drop off times seriously worsen the problem by parking all the way along the green at the corner of Grotto Road, right up to the junction, thereby making the road too
    narrow for traffic to navigate, let alone pedestrians. They appear oblivious to the Highway Code & ignore the white lines that have been painted nearby to try & prevent parking on corners. The 20mph speed limit ends at the entrance into this road.

    The corner urgently needs double yellow lines all along the green and opposite the shop, and strict enforcement of same.

    50 local residents have recently signed up to help petition about this junction, and many have expressed disappointment that this long standing problem has still not been resolved."

    Thank you so much to everyone who has been collecting signatures, please keep up the good work & let me know if you would like any more forms or information!

    I will post SCC's reply here when I get it

    Yours sincerely,

    Barbara Molony
    Barbara, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
  • The response that i received, and my subsequent supplementary question is too long to be displayed here, so i have set up a new 'Blog' for people to review the progress of the campaign, and comment on the response from the council please!

    www.GrottoRoadJunction.blogspot.com

    (capitals not important)
  • This problem also affects almost the whole of Portmore Park Road which, in my opinion should be no parking on on e side from 0800 to 1800. It is in the majority parents/carers of children from St georges/St charles who park in a dangerous manner. I knew this would be a problem at the St georges end when the school switched from all girls to junior mixed - this means there are more parents with children at each school who have to use a care to deliver kids. Another solution would be a shuttle bus from the senior school to the junior or a walking bus.
    june, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
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Current signatories (Green text = they've done it)

Barbara, the Pledge Creator, joined by:

  • Sebastian Michnowicz
  • Maureen Westbrook
  • Miles Macleod
  • amber
  • Sharlene Fuller
  • Wendy Parry
  • Julia Brown
  • Hannah Simpson
  • Heather Pustowka
  • Laura Sheargold
  • Anne
  • Karin Peluso
  • Louisa Foster
  • Elinor Staddon
  • Dianne Grant
  • Frances Miller
  • Mark Lewis
  • Christine Franks
  • Laura Hignett
  • Alice Squires
  • Antony John Rest
  • Kay Pearson
  • Carole Gibbs
  • Mick Sheargold
  • 18 people who did not want to give their names, 5 of whom have done the pledge
  • 8 people who signed up via mobile

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